dataandphilosophy

dataandphilosophy:

loki-zen:

nuclearspaceheater:

loki-zen:

snorlaxatives:

me when americans talk shit about america: for real i feel you this place is awful

me when europeans talk shit about america: ok but did anyone ask your beans on toast eatin’ ass???

See I respect this opinion but tumblr hate for beans on toast is problematic.

This has been said before but beans on toast is a poor person food. It is a way in which someone with no time or cooking expertise can make a reasonably balanced meal that most kids will eat for pennies a serving. Shitting on beans and toast kind of feels like shitting on people who need an option like that.

Plus I do kinds feel like it is the world’s prerogative to talk shit about America for as long as America’s actions have massive effects on the rest of the world. For Europe specifically a lot of us feel like the US dragged us along with them into some bullshit wars, and sure our leaders are to blame too but it is literally America’s game that we’re in and don’t want to be playing.

Should’ve left NATO after the Soviet Union fell if they didn’t want to get involved in other peoples’ wars, but I guess being under the massive US nuclear deterrent is too comfy.

But as to the OP, I can say that this dynamic is clearly evident in the Navy. Sailors will talk shit all day about their ship, their chain of command, their class of ship in general, their squadron, the Navy…

…but anyone from outside the relevant circle talks shit about anything in the relevant circle, and it’s, “u fukin wot m8?” This can be actual offense or joking mutual insults (the latter especially between fast-attack submariners and faggots ballistic missile submariners, or between submariners in general and faggots  skimmers  targets surface sailors.)

I did once, being qualified senior-in-rate myself, call out a New Underway Buddy for picking up on complaining about the boat’s material condition too much faster than he was picking up qualifications w/, “you haven’t been on-board long enough to insult this boat!”

Yeah well the average European citizen alive today did not exactly get consulted about our membership in NATO, you know? Like I wasn’t born, let alone able to vote, when the Soviet Union fell, and even if the question had got put to the public like we were in a direct democracy which I know it didn’t, there would still have been 40+% of people whose choice didn’t get implemented.

I *get* the whole ‘we can talk shit about our thing but you can’t’ thing. But it’s true about like, my games society, or my fiance, or my subculture or my hometown or the North (as in, the geographical/cultural ingroup that exists around the north of England, and tbh this only applies to people from the South of England cause people from other countries don’t care about/understand the North-South divide here).

A global superpower has too much effect on the outside world to be immune to outside criticism. 

There’s a difference between “X should be immune to outside criticism” and “when an outsider criticizes X, the first instinct is to circle the wagons.”

Oh, totally. It’s just fuzzy on tumblr.

But I also think there’s a difference between, IDK, someone else criticising my boyfriend’s jacket because they hate the goth look, and someone criticising his jacket because they have a moral objection to leather. I don’t agree with either of them, but the leather thing is actually about ways in which his actions might materially affect other entities, so it feels more valid?

I think that is the thing that I am getting at.

dataandphilosophy Source: snorlaxatives

So guys this petition:

a) I imagine if you’re British and following me you probably already saw it and signed it, but in case not, sign it (if you are British)!

b) Has over SEVEN THOUSAND signatures now!

c) My MP, John McDonnell, has stated to me that he supports this campaign. Now he’s just one MP, and in Opposition, but I’m gonna be asking him what he’s actually doing to support it, or if it’s just a statement of ‘I approve’. 

It’s likely that he can’t really do anything right now other than sign it, as there is a process for getting a petition looked at by Parliament and it’s not asking a random MP to bring it up. However, I still encourage people to contact your MPs whatever way you can and ask for their support. If we can make it to 100,000 signatures they have to look at this in Parliament, and it will go a lot more smoothly if lots of people already know about it and know that their constituents want it.

We can do this thing!

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withasmoothroundstone

Anonymous asked:

I know you're not feeling well now, and that even if you did feel well, you might not want to or be able to respond, so if I don't get a response, I understand why and won't be upset. I wanted to ask, though, if you have advice for seeing a gynecologist when you're fat, have sexual trauma, and are continually talked to like a child and treated badly by doctors because you're cognitively disabled? How can I make sure I find a gynecologist who's respectful and safe?

withasmoothroundstone answered:

Oh geez.  I have no idea. 

I got my last gynecologist because I had a friend who recommended her as amazing.  Then she retired and now I’m still looking for one (as in, I’m unsure whether to remain with her successor at her practice or whether to try and find a new one, especially after some stuff that happened with billing that was really screwed up and has left me in permanent debt), and kind of freaked out about the whole thing. 

There’s a Planned Parenthood within walking distance of me, I’ve thought of going there out of convenience, but I don’t know how respectful they’d be.  I have a horrible time with gynecological exams, and sometimes have had to go under anesthesia for procedures that don’t normally require it, so… yeah.  I have no idea how to find someone respectful, and right now I’m right in the middle of that problem myself. 

It might be possible to interview different doctors and see which one would be a good fit before consenting to any exams, but that could also prove impossibly expensive if insurance wasn’t covering the visits (which they might not if no exam was taking place, I don’t know a lot about things like that). 

So the short answer is:  I wish I knew.  Myself – I’m fat, hairy (which always comes up with gyns as a “holy crap are your hormones okay!?!!” thing), genderless, a sexual abuse survivor, and cognitively disabled myself, as well as having what seem to be physical issues that make exams excruciatingly painful (like I can handle a nerve block in my face without flinching but I can’t handle a speculum without screaming my head off, it feels as if they’re tearing flesh, and even if they knock me out first it’s excruciatingly painful when I wake up so their constant idea that I must be tensing the muscles is probably wrong, unless I can tense muscles in my sleep).  And I don’t have periods since I was 28 or so (I’m turning 35 next month), so I need gyn care to avoid cancer (because of the particular causes of this for me), plus I really do have pituitary problems (including severe adrenal insufficiency) that might be contributing to some of this.  And all of those things have made gynecological stuff really difficult.  I didn’t even start getting exams until a later age than I should have, because of all that, and I can’t get the same kind of exams most people get, because of all that, and it’s a serious pain in the butt at minimum.

I’m posting this in case anyone knows this sort of thing better than I do.

I’m like, only fat-ish, cis, and my mental issues aren’t obvious in short appointments like that, but I am a sexual assault survivor and this is what helped me:

  • Taking with me a person that
  • I am cool with seeing my ladybits
  • I am confident loves and cares for my body and will jump right on any body shaming shit
  • I trust to speak for me if being triggered or similar renders me unable to express myself (could also work if you are at risk of going nonverbal when you don’t want to)
  • Basically the whole atmosphere is different with a friend there. If the doctor is going to be a dick, they will think twice because they know they are being watched (sadly, making sure your companion comes across as NT will help). I feel better because they are there. And anything bad that happens, they are there with me, which means that a) no one can deny or make me doubt what happened and b) they will be there with me to look after me both during and after.

    withasmoothroundstone gynecologist
    rebellionkid

    rebellionkid:

    tog22:

    A tangential followup to my earlier posting of this classic article from Slate Star Codex (on Tumblr as slatestarscratchpad​), here’s a categorisation of the politicocultural tribes in the UK by loki-zen. I don’t endorse its accuracy in every way, and loki-zen’s own tribe is sufficiently niche than many people will never encounter it, but this sort of thing is always fun: 

    I think this is a useful and informative post, and it has some very interesting implications, but it is very US-centric.

    I’m trying to draw some parallels in the UK but I am coming up blank. I feel like my in-group has no allegiance to any party… it’s mostly people who used to be Liberal Democrat but only because they were the least evil of the parties that was close to having a chance at doing anything and then got majorly disillusioned by the Coalition so now has no party to hang their hopes on.

    Largely they are either disillusioned with voting altogether or going to vote Labour if they live in a place where that might make a difference because Labour are the new ‘least bad’.

    There are, I think, at least two political ‘outgroups’ for me… there are the stereotypical Tories who are associated with things like having lots of money, being posh and/or having aristocratic heritage or aspirations, being out of touch and hating poor people. This sort of overlaps but not quite with the idea of upper middle-class people who shop at Waitrose and eat quinoa or locally-grown grass-fed free-range organic everything and fret about their children not knowing how to play the violin or speak Cantonese by the time they’re seven or whatever. Anyway, that’s like, the Blue Tribe (no relation to the US Blues since our party colours are Blue=more right wing, Red=historically left wing, now centerish).

    And then there’s the other Blues who don’t overlap in any way with the former, the demographic people like UKIP and the BNP are poaching from the Tories, who are the Daily-Mail-reading immigrant-hating racist homophobic sexist ‘tribe’.

    Which basically paints a picture of Tories as a group with no lower-middle-middle class people in it, I think. Blue subtribe A is at least upper-middle class with pretensions of upper class, or upper class but trying to deny it (like Cameron himself), and Blue subtribe B, if not actually working class, try to signal being working class quite strongly.

    The actual left-leaning working class – mostly extent in the North and Scotland – we’ll call Red. Associations include miners, hating Thatcher, beer and blokiness, and various Northern or Scottish stereotypes.

    And what is my Tribe? We can call them Yellow. My tribe of birth is the ‘chattering classes’, the middle class Lib Dem and Labour voters, the Guardian readers, the group that has a lot of parallels both with Scott Alexander’s Blue Tribe and, in fact, with some of Blue Tribe A; certainly they may well shop at Waitrose and M&S and eat either a conspicuously multicultural diet or hardcore local-organic-free-range-signalling-purity-with-my-food, but they’re also very good at putting down the white straight people they generally are, they’re very into learning things from other cultures (usually in a patronising, culturally-appropriating fashion), demonstrating how tolerant they are, etc. And they’re big into the arts and academia. Most professors (especially at 'good Universities’) are this tribe, as is a lot of the BBC. Paul Merton and Ian Hislop, long-time stars of the UK’s longest-running satirical news/politics show 'Have I Got News For You’ are *definitely* this tribe. In fact, they almost typify it; Hislop at the upper-middle/upper-class end using his well-educated RP wit to mock the Daily Mail reading chavs, and Merton as the working-class-made-good end, earning paradoxical status for his low-status accent and mocking Hislop’s Public School education, to the delight of the Tribe.

    But this Yellow (and a little Green; they’re big on the environment and will have comprised the majority of voters for the Green Party also) Tribe is the Tribe I was born into; I don’t think it is my Tribe now. It’s far too easy to mock them, for a start. Nor do I think I’m Grey Tribe; I’m definitely no Libertarian and I’ve never felt welcome in hardcore geek spaces – I’m too female, too artsy, too Yellow Tribe-ish for their liking.

    The people who feel like my people care about politics but don’t feel like any party comes close to representing their views, and couldn’t do so and maintain broader popularity. We’re like 50% gay and bisexual and a much higher percentage of transgender and genderqueer than the general populace. A lot of us are into kink and various kinds of nonmonogamy. A lot, like a shit ton of us are disabled, mostly with mental illness, but not always. We’re geeky, but more fandom-geeky and into LARPing than science-geeky, although a lot of us work with computers. We’re a combination of middle class, working class and people who were raised middle class but have been a working-class level of poor for so long we no longer identify that way. We’re young. Most of us have Red-Yellow Tribe parents, but some of us have Blue Tribe parents. We probably get on with the Yellow and Red tribes better than the Blue, but we have some serious problems with the Yellows and are unlikely to know many Reds since the members of my Tribe in this country that I know about tend to live in the South and even if we’re working class we don’t frequent the Red establishments; we don’t go to the right pubs and clubs; a lot of us don’t even drink. We do a lot of other drugs though, both recreationally and medically and self-medicatingly. I dunno what to call us? But I feel like we are really not just a sub-Tribe of the Yellows. 

    I think maybe we like to think of ourselves as new Bohemians, wearing our fashionable ripped-up jeans cause we genuinely can’t afford new ones and experimenting with our genders and our sexualities and our art and our minds and bodies, espousing the critical and creative merits of the Yellow Tribe without the money with less of the privilege that buffers them from reality.

    And then, I think, we take our meds and hug our two-to-five housemates who make living in London affordable and have a cup of tea (even when we’re on the breadline there’s a choice of normal or herbal) and realise we’re not characters from RENT.

    But tribe-wise, I’m really not sure what we are.

    Glossary for non-Brits:

    Tories – The Conservative Party, or Conservative Party followers

    The Coalition - compromise formed at the last General Election in which the Liberal Democrats joined up with the Tories (who won more votes than the other main party, the Labour Party, but not quite enough to form a Government). A lot of voters for the Liberal Democrats are very anti-Tory and saw this as a massive betrayal.

    UKIP - UK Independence Party. Right wing-ish but mostly about being racist, anti-immigration and anti-Europe.

    BNP - British National Party. Economically left wing, but more about being racist, anti-immigration and anti-Europe.

    Waitrose, M&S – Waitrose and Marks & Spencers: a supermarket chain and chain of shops that are pretty 'upmarket’ and associated with posh people. Marks & Spencers sell other things like clothes and gifts, and it’s kind of less posh to get other things from there, but very posh to get food from there.

    RP – Received Pronunciation; the 'neutral’ British accent once required to get on TV or the radio. Taught at public school and to posh kids. Associated with posh people and the South, which in the UK is the richer, more right-wing part of the country.

    Chavs – pejorative; stereotypical urban white trash associated with petty crime and teenage pregnancy.

    Public School – very expensive private schools for the uber rich

    hmm. This seems to miss the most important “tribe” of UK post-war history, which worries me. I’m not sure where Thatcher’s Aspirational Working Class comes into it. 

    The type example of this species is my father. Parents were as poor as pigshit and twice as common. Bought before the property bubble and is now doing quite nicely there. Small business owner who thinks the unions are full of lazy scroungers, Europe is trying to stop him doing his job with insane rules, and that everything would be better if the government would just leave him alone. 

    Sure he likes the Chinese because they pay their bills on time, and doesn’t like the Pakistanis because they don’t. But he’s not really the Daily-Mail-reading immigrant-hating racist homophobic sexist 'tribe’. 

    Other UK people, where do you think this tribe fits?

    In the brain-space of me putting that post together, these people would be Blue Tribe B. Daily-Mail-reading immigrant-hating racist homophobic sexist is more a stereotypical/exaggerated description of the hypothetical central example of that subtribe. Blue Tribe B is pretty much all the Tories’ non-posh supporters, and opinions concerning ‘lazy scroungers’ and what ethnic minorities do and don’t do various things are common in this group (and this group would voice them, which the Yellows, for instance, would never do even if they thought them).

    rebellionkid Source: loki-zen uk politics tribes loki's long-winded musings
    tog22

    tog22:

    A tangential followup to my earlier posting of this classic article from Slate Star Codex (on Tumblr as slatestarscratchpad​), here’s a categorisation of the politicocultural tribes in the UK by loki-zen. I don’t endorse its accuracy in every way, and loki-zen’s own tribe is sufficiently niche than many people will never encounter it, but this sort of thing is always fun: 

    I think this is a useful and informative post, and it has some very interesting implications, but it is very US-centric.

    I’m trying to draw some parallels in the UK but I am coming up blank. I feel like my in-group has no allegiance to any party… it’s mostly people who used to be Liberal Democrat but only because they were the least evil of the parties that was close to having a chance at doing anything and then got majorly disillusioned by the Coalition so now has no party to hang their hopes on.

    Largely they are either disillusioned with voting altogether or going to vote Labour if they live in a place where that might make a difference because Labour are the new ‘least bad’.

    There are, I think, at least two political ‘outgroups’ for me… there are the stereotypical Tories who are associated with things like having lots of money, being posh and/or having aristocratic heritage or aspirations, being out of touch and hating poor people. This sort of overlaps but not quite with the idea of upper middle-class people who shop at Waitrose and eat quinoa or locally-grown grass-fed free-range organic everything and fret about their children not knowing how to play the violin or speak Cantonese by the time they’re seven or whatever. Anyway, that’s like, the Blue Tribe (no relation to the US Blues since our party colours are Blue=more right wing, Red=historically left wing, now centerish).

    And then there’s the other Blues who don’t overlap in any way with the former, the demographic people like UKIP and the BNP are poaching from the Tories, who are the Daily-Mail-reading immigrant-hating racist homophobic sexist ‘tribe’.

    Which basically paints a picture of Tories as a group with no lower-middle-middle class people in it, I think. Blue subtribe A is at least upper-middle class with pretensions of upper class, or upper class but trying to deny it (like Cameron himself), and Blue subtribe B, if not actually working class, try to signal being working class quite strongly.

    The actual left-leaning working class – mostly extent in the North and Scotland – we’ll call Red. Associations include miners, hating Thatcher, beer and blokiness, and various Northern or Scottish stereotypes.

    And what is my Tribe? We can call them Yellow. My tribe of birth is the 'chattering classes’, the middle class Lib Dem and Labour voters, the Guardian readers, the group that has a lot of parallels both with Scott Alexander’s Blue Tribe and, in fact, with some of Blue Tribe A; certainly they may well shop at Waitrose and M&S and eat either a conspicuously multicultural diet or hardcore local-organic-free-range-signalling-purity-with-my-food, but they’re also very good at putting down the white straight people they generally are, they’re very into learning things from other cultures (usually in a patronising, culturally-appropriating fashion), demonstrating how tolerant they are, etc. And they’re big into the arts and academia. Most professors (especially at 'good Universities’) are this tribe, as is a lot of the BBC. Paul Merton and Ian Hislop, long-time stars of the UK’s longest-running satirical news/politics show 'Have I Got News For You’ are *definitely* this tribe. In fact, they almost typify it; Hislop at the upper-middle/upper-class end using his well-educated RP wit to mock the Daily Mail reading chavs, and Merton as the working-class-made-good end, earning paradoxical status for his low-status accent and mocking Hislop’s Public School education, to the delight of the Tribe.

    But this Yellow (and a little Green; they’re big on the environment and will have comprised the majority of voters for the Green Party also) Tribe is the Tribe I was born into; I don’t think it is my Tribe now. It’s far too easy to mock them, for a start. Nor do I think I’m Grey Tribe; I’m definitely no Libertarian and I’ve never felt welcome in hardcore geek spaces – I’m too female, too artsy, too Yellow Tribe-ish for their liking.

    The people who feel like my people care about politics but don’t feel like any party comes close to representing their views, and couldn’t do so and maintain broader popularity. We’re like 50% gay and bisexual and a much higher percentage of transgender and genderqueer than the general populace. A lot of us are into kink and various kinds of nonmonogamy. A lot, like a shit ton of us are disabled, mostly with mental illness, but not always. We’re geeky, but more fandom-geeky and into LARPing than science-geeky, although a lot of us work with computers. We’re a combination of middle class, working class and people who were raised middle class but have been a working-class level of poor for so long we no longer identify that way. We’re young. Most of us have Red-Yellow Tribe parents, but some of us have Blue Tribe parents. We probably get on with the Yellow and Red tribes better than the Blue, but we have some serious problems with the Yellows and are unlikely to know many Reds since the members of my Tribe in this country that I know about tend to live in the South and even if we’re working class we don’t frequent the Red establishments; we don’t go to the right pubs and clubs; a lot of us don’t even drink. We do a lot of other drugs though, both recreationally and medically and self-medicatingly. I dunno what to call us? But I feel like we are really not just a sub-Tribe of the Yellows. 

    I think maybe we like to think of ourselves as new Bohemians, wearing our fashionable ripped-up jeans cause we genuinely can’t afford new ones and experimenting with our genders and our sexualities and our art and our minds and bodies, espousing the critical and creative merits of the Yellow Tribe without the money with less of the privilege that buffers them from reality.

    And then, I think, we take our meds and hug our two-to-five housemates who make living in London affordable and have a cup of tea (even when we’re on the breadline there’s a choice of normal or herbal) and realise we’re not characters from RENT.

    But tribe-wise, I’m really not sure what we are.

    Glossary for non-Brits:

    Tories – The Conservative Party, or Conservative Party followers

    The Coalition - compromise formed at the last General Election in which the Liberal Democrats joined up with the Tories (who won more votes than the other main party, the Labour Party, but not quite enough to form a Government). A lot of voters for the Liberal Democrats are very anti-Tory and saw this as a massive betrayal.

    UKIP - UK Independence Party. Right wing-ish but mostly about being racist, anti-immigration and anti-Europe.

    BNP - British National Party. Economically left wing, but more about being racist, anti-immigration and anti-Europe.

    Waitrose, M&S – Waitrose and Marks & Spencers: a supermarket chain and chain of shops that are pretty 'upmarket’ and associated with posh people. Marks & Spencers sell other things like clothes and gifts, and it’s kind of less posh to get other things from there, but very posh to get food from there.

    RP – Received Pronunciation; the 'neutral’ British accent once required to get on TV or the radio. Taught at public school and to posh kids. Associated with posh people and the South, which in the UK is the richer, more right-wing part of the country.

    Chavs – pejorative; stereotypical urban white trash associated with petty crime and teenage pregnancy.

    Public School – very expensive private schools for the uber rich

    It was cool to see this reposted!

    Thinking about it now, I’m pretty sure my tribe is largely Yellow people who’ve been poor too long to be proper Yellows (which partially explains why we’re all so gay and trans and disabled; those are all correlated with not making as much money, so maybe we would still be Yellow if we were more privileged) and fringe Greys who are just bit too arty/emotional/allosexual to be mainstream Grey, or else they have the wrong kind of brain-weirdness to be mainstream Grey (Borderline or Bipolar rather than Autistic, for instance).

    But yeah, I feel that you are probably right about the niche-ness of us. However, if you *want* to find members of this tribe, any craft fair, live roleplay group* or kink meetup seems extremely likely to contain us.


    * A game set in the modern age or the past, or in a fantasy world resembling the past or present. Stuff set in the future is much more likely to be all-Grey.

    tog22 Source: loki-zen my tribe ramblings people like me on the internet
    slatestarscratchpad

    Anonymous asked:

    I am a bipolar person who strongly desires to experience some amount of hypomania in their life, but I'm concerned about kindling as an issue. I am predominantly depressive, and my depression is responsive to DIY DBT. I am currently un-medicated, mostly because I had horrifyingly traumatic experiences with therapy and also because I have a tendency to experience awful side effects. How dangerous is it for me to remain unmedicated, or to later medicate in a way that does not eliminate hypomania?

    slatestarscratchpad answered:

    (2/2) To clarify, I REALLY LOVE hypomania. It is the most glorious, wonderful thing. I am extremely good at coping with the impulsivity that comes with it and I consider it an incredible gift and blessing. Mania, on the other hand, is a horrifying nightmare of life-damaging stupidity that i want to avoid ever allowing to happen again. What I’m worried about is that over time I will start experiencing mania even without anti-depressants.


    Ugh. I hate situations like this.

    (to clarify to other people reading this: “kindling” is a hypothesis where if you don’t treat bipolar disorder, each episode that happens damages your brain and increases your likelihood of getting further bipolar episodes in the future)

    Thing is, part of me really wants to doubt the kindling theory of bipolar. Only about half of studies find evidence for it, and the more methodologically sound the study, the less likely it is to produce positive results. Further, even these studies only find that “first bipolar episodes are more likely to be triggered by stressful life events than subsequent bipolar episodes”, which is a far cry from “the experience of going through the first episode sensitizes the brain to have further episodes” - not only is it totally consistent with things like “bipolar gets worse over time in general”, but I worry about various issues like recall bias. The part of me that reads The Last Psychiatrist worries that pharma companies have noticed that “if you don’t take drugs now, forever, your bipolar disorder will get worse and worse until you’re a quivering wreck” is a very convenient theory and is partly behind why it’s been so widely accepted on such a contradictory evidence base.

    But there’s another part of me that notes that the evidence base really is contradictory - by which I mean about half of studies do find a kindling effect, sometimes a pretty strong one. And I’ve got to ask - hypomania is fun, but if we assume that there’s a 50% chance something like the kindling hypothesis is true, is it worth a serious risk to your health for the rest of your life?

    This is a serious problem with what you might call the philosophical Bayesian worldview. A sufficiently dedicated outside force may not be able to convince you of their pet hypothesis, but it’s a lot easier for them to make you think it’s a going possibility, then Pascal’s-Wager you into acting upon it. In psychiatry, this means the drug companies use their influence and control of the research process to make it look like there’s at least a 25% chance that if you don’t prescribe lots of their drug you’re going to be really hurting the patient; if the drug has sufficiently few side effects, then you’d be irresponsible not to do it.

    I don’t have a good solution to this, but if I were you, I really wouldn’t make “opposing the kindling model of bipolar disorder” my hill to die on. As you point out, it can really suck.

    You might be interested in trying Lamictal, which has good antidepressant effect in bipolar disorder, questionable ability to prevent hypomania, and which as an anticonvulsant is maybe effective against kindling effects although that’s speculative and possibly sort of made-up. AFAIK no one knows whether mania kindles mania and depression kindles depression, or whether both kindle both, in which case you’d have extra incentive. Lamictal also has fewer side effects than most things and is sometimes used as monotherapy for bipolar 1 even though this is Not Exactly Best Practice. You’re still not getting good mania coverage, but it would be better than no meds at all.

    I Am Not A Psychiatrist, just a bipolar person. Probably Bipolar II, at that.

    But in my own personal experience, which you almost definitely shouldn’t take as meaning anything, it has been possible to treat my bipolar purely by finding an antidepressant that doesn’t cause mania or hypomania (which is likely different for everyone), and this means that I treat the downs and just live with the ups - though, for me, venlafaxine has had a general levelling effect, albeit not one that is distinguishable from ‘I just started getting ups less often/severely for no reason’, and it’s never to my knowledge been proven or indicated to do that. 

    If you’re prone to getting actual maniac episodes, however (I only have them when an antidepressant causes them) this is probably a Bad Idea.

    This also wasn’t a reasoned decision on my part - people put me on antidepressants when my diagnosis was still fuzzy and the maniac episodes they caused were generally misdiagnosed as ‘anxiety’ or something, and since getting an actual diagnosis* I’ve just been too scared of the side effects to switch from something that is mostly working to mood stabilisers or antipsychotics with scary-sounding side effects.**


    * on paper, my diagnosis is actually ‘Mood Disorder NOS’. But psychs agree it is something Bipolar-spectrum, and from reading the diagnostic criteria, I have no idea why my diagnosis isn’t ‘Bipolar II’.

    ** venlafaxine is just as scary, on paper, as a lot of mood stablisers, and my last psych seemed to feel depakote ought to be less scary. But I know what venlafaxine does to me, specifically, and I don’t know what depakote would do, so..

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    queenshulamit

    veni-vidi-linguine:

    problematiclarry:

    i just wanna say for any of u that arent british the sun literally has zero credibility in the uk. like everybody knows it as a sleazy tabloid thats racist, sexist and full of shit. it has a section dedicated to pictures of topless women and one of it’s columnists is katie hopkins, literally the most hated woman in Britain. like its widely read and popular but it’s reputation is probably the lowest of the low

    Okay but when you said the sun I thought you meant the actual literal sun and I was so confused

    Also true tbh

    queenshulamit Source: problematiclarry britain my fucking country